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Although I didn't catch too much of TNA's earlier days, I have been watching it on a weekly basis since back when they were doing a weekly show on Fox Sports Net[right before they moved to Spike TV].  I have always thought as a wrestling fan that TNA has potential to be a very strong number two promotion but they are problems with them that are holding them back;

 

Lack of promotion

 

When it comes to being promoted as a company, no network has ever really solidly got behind TNA.  Once Hogan & Bischoff came in Spike TV did a decent job of promoting but it still wasn't at the level it should've been for the modest and decent fan base that TNA has. 

 

No great leader in management

 

Although Jeff Jarrett did a good job, he didn't really have that wrestling promoter mentality as he was primarily still wrestling back in the early days until around 2011/2012.  Dixie Carter is perhaps the biggest embarrassment to a wrestling management position that has ever been to the sport.  While I do think her intentions might be good, her naïve approach to everything screams of inexperience and blind faith in those who manipulate her and take advantage.  TNA needs a true leader who has a solid vision on where TNA should go and how to achieve that end.

 

Brand recognition

 

TNA has the six sided ring once again, which I personally have always liked.  I think that serves them well in standing out from WWE or any other wrestling promotions.  Around 2004-2006 TNA really stood out as the innovative wrestling company and it set them apart from WWE.  Impact Wrestling aren't confined by a PG rating and don't have to worry about limitations.  They can let the action speak for itself if they chose to focus on it.  Entertainment can be included, but they need to focus more on wrestling since WWE is the entertainment company.

 

Find a new network

 

Spike TV is obviously having issues with Impact Wrestling so the time to relocate is now.  I'm sure some network would pick them up when the Spike deal expires.  If they found a more fitting network who was willing to heavily promote them, I think we'd see a change in ratings.  If TNA feels like a big deal promotion via a network featuring them prominently, then fans will associate them with the wrestling company they are.

 

Those aren't all the problems with TNA, but those are the major ones I see that could hold Impact Wrestling back.  What problems do you see that might potentially hold TNA back?  Thoughts?



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A big one for me, is that I believe Vince Russo is back with TNA as a creative guy? That may have been a rumor, but if it's true, Vince needs to be taken out. Even though I found the S.E.X. invasion to actually be a bit entertaining back in the day, Vince just isn't good with story stuff. Not only that, I've heard Dixie Carter has lied to Spike TV about things multiple times, so I think she needs to be taken from the management position, although both obviously can't be really changed in a day. 



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No great leader in management

 

Although Jeff Jarrett did a good job, he didn't really have that wrestling promoter mentality as he was primarily still wrestling back in the early days until around 2011/2012.  Dixie Carter is perhaps the biggest embarrassment to a wrestling management position that has ever been to the sport.  While I do think her intentions might be good, her naïve approach to everything screams of inexperience and blind faith in those who manipulate her and take advantage.  TNA needs a true leader who has a solid vision on where TNA should go and how to achieve that end.

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A big one for me, is that I believe Vince Russo is back with TNA as a creative guy? That may have been a rumor, but if it's true, Vince needs to be taken out. Even though I found the S.E.X. invasion to actually be a bit entertaining back in the day, Vince just isn't good with story stuff. Not only that, I've heard Dixie Carter has lied to Spike TV about things multiple times, so I think she needs to be taken from the management position, although both obviously can't be really changed in a day. 

Vince left TNA a few weeks ago.



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A big one for me, is that I believe Vince Russo is back with TNA as a creative guy? That may have been a rumor, but if it's true, Vince needs to be taken out. Even though I found the S.E.X. invasion to actually be a bit entertaining back in the day, Vince just isn't good with story stuff. Not only that, I've heard Dixie Carter has lied to Spike TV about things multiple times, so I think she needs to be taken from the management position, although both obviously can't be really changed in a day. 

Vince left TNA a few weeks ago.
They could just be saying that.

As for the leadership thing, Paul Heyman was close to purchasing TNA back in 2010, but he was apparently told that they were in debt of around 10 Million dollars. So they've gotta solve their problems because every surviving day for them at this point is a miracle.

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They are already on their way to a better product, they just need more young stars.



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Vince Russo was working for TNA, That's why SPIKE didn't resign TNA.

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A big one for me, is that I believe Vince Russo is back with TNA as a creative guy? That may have been a rumor, but if it's true, Vince needs to be taken out. Even though I found the S.E.X. invasion to actually be a bit entertaining back in the day, Vince just isn't good with story stuff. Not only that, I've heard Dixie Carter has lied to Spike TV about things multiple times, so I think she needs to be taken from the management position, although both obviously can't be really changed in a day. 

Vince left TNA a few weeks ago.
They could just be saying that.

As for the leadership thing, Paul Heyman was close to purchasing TNA back in 2010, but he was apparently told that they were in debt of around 10 Million dollars. So they've gotta solve their problems because every surviving day for them at this point is a miracle.

 

The problem with TNA is one step forward, ten more back.  When I am talking about new management, two names that immediately spring to mind are Jim Ross or Paul Heyman.  Both guys have been in the wrestling and entertainment business so long that their knowledge eclipses that of even the McMahon family.  Which has been evidenced by the McMahons' love/hate relationship with both men at different times during their careers.  TNA still has a diverse and unique enough roster to draw viewers into their product, but lack of promotion and bad management are big factors that work against their elevation as a company.  As a wrestling fan, I want to see them improve and become competition though at this point it kind of appears like TNA may be a rapidly sinking ship.....



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What will it take for TNA to succeed? Easy

 

Divine intervention 



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The product is good , they just need better management , someone who is willing to save any debt and keep evolving n the right decision . They have 12 years , it took a long time to WWE to become the biggest company in USA .

 

What will it take for TNA to succeed? Easy

 

Divine intervention 

Don't you mean Devine Intervention ? :P



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What will it take for TNA to succeed? Easy

 

Divine intervention 

As long as Dixie Carter is running TNA, you might be right.


The product is good , they just need better management , someone who is willing to save any debt and keep evolving n the right decision . They have 12 years , it took a long time to WWE to become the biggest company in USA .

 

What will it take for TNA to succeed? Easy

 

Divine intervention 

Don't you mean Devine Intervention ? :P

LOL nice Johnny Devine reference :dbryyes: 



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Vince Russo was working for TNA, That's why SPIKE didn't resign TNA.

I've read that it also has to do with Dixie Carter don't wanting to give 10% of the company to Spike TV and the fact that Spike think they can get better ratings with other shows .



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Vince Russo was working for TNA, That's why SPIKE didn't resign TNA.

I've read that it also has to do with Dixie Carter don't wanting to give 10% of the company to Spike TV and the fact that Spike think they can get better ratings with other shows .

 

If I'm not mistaken, companies were interested in buying TNA but one holdup was that Dixie Carter wanted to remain as an on-screen character even once the company was sold to someone else.  And if Spike can get higher ratings with a Thursday night marathon of "Cops", I'm sure that doesn't help the negotiation process.



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Dixie should stay off tv forever lol

 

 

I think a big thing that makes it not as successful as a company like WWE is because of the lack of live events. The shows are taped. If they wanted to take the real leap they'd be doing live shows, traveling all the time. Of course they'd need to make money as a successful indy promotion first to even accumulate enough for that to be a starter possibility which relies simply on one thing; promotion. You could have the greatest product in the world, but it' not really gonna build huge followings like that unless it's live. They need to spread the word better, have more accessible air times and more over advertisement. I personally find TNAs product great and think they're doing very well at least creative wise. 


Edited by GLB, 27 August 2014 - 04:36 AM.


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Dixie should stay off tv forever lol

 

 

I think a big thing that makes it not as successful as a company like WWE is because of the lack of live events. The shows are taped. If they wanted to take the real leap they'd be doing live shows, traveling all the time. Of course they'd need to make money as a successful indy promotion first to even accumulate enough for that to be a starter possibility which relies simply on one thing; promotion. You could have the greatest product in the world, but it' not really gonna build huge followings like that unless it's live. They need to spread the word better, have more accessible air times and more over advertisement. I personally find TNAs product great and think they're doing very well at least creative wise. 

Dixie should sell the company and stay out of wrestling forever, but that's a different matter altogether.

 

TNA tried doing more live events after Hogan and Bischoff came in and sometimes those live events failed miserably.  I went to 2 or 3 house shows TNA did in my area and some of them were horrible.  The in-ring action wasn't getting reaction from the audience and the attendance was awful.  Literally, I think there may have been upwards of 100-200 of us and that was hardcore fans not really the casual fan types.  One of the biggest problems TNA has faced as a company is brand identity, which they don't have.  Sure they have the 6 sided ring and unique talents.  But without the financial means to properly promote them, you are dead in the water.  I think that TNA in the last few months has improved more than it has in years.  Any company that has that airhead Dixie Carter in charge is doomed though and if Spike TV does not renew TNA and they go to the Velocity channel as rumored, TNA may be dead sooner than we all think.....



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Hogan and Bischoff trying to relive their nWo moments and stuff was a really bad time period for that company. Around that time period was nothing but terrible Hogan/Bischoff storylines, forgettable Sting title runs and Jeff Hardy suffering his drug problem. 

 

And nothing could've flopped harder than Aces and Eights shortly thereafter. 


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Hogan and Bischoff trying to relive their nWo moments and stuff was a really bad time period for that company. Around that time period was nothing but terrible Hogan/Bischoff storylines, forgettable Sting title runs and Jeff Hardy suffering his drug problem. 

 

And nothing could've flopped harder than Aces and Eights shortly thereafter. 

When Hogan & Bischoff came in, a few cool things happened in TNA.  Jeff Hardy returned, Mr. Anderson debuted, and there was a lot of media hype around Hogan's arrival.  And I honestly hoped as a fan that them coming to TNA would elevate them to the next level.  Unfortunately for the good things Hogan/Bischoff did in TNA like bringing in Hardy, Anderson, etc. then they also had equally bad ideas.  They brought in Val Venis/Sean Morley which failed.  The Nasty Boys came in, which I still vividly remember and hate to this day.  So for each great idea the two had, they had more bad so it didn't balance out.

 

Sting title runs were always a high point and he's one of the few big name stars they had.  Hardy's drug problems were a brief point in his career and he has since turned his life around, which is admirable.  Aces & Eights was a decent idea and if pulled off right, could have been better.  They only had a few big names for the group, mostly Team 3D and Mr. Anderson.  The rest were green rookies like Knux, Wes Brisco, or Doc and having them as members did little to boost the credibility of such a group.  If they'd had Sting go to Aces & Eights, that would've been major.  Or Kurt Angle, even though admittedly that one wouldn't make much sense but having a main TNA guy defecting makes an impact.  At that time, they had the option of using Matt Morgan.  I mean the options were endless and TNA failed to capitalize.  Which is kind of the story of TNA's existence really.....



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Hogan and Bischoff trying to relive their nWo moments and stuff was a really bad time period for that company. Around that time period was nothing but terrible Hogan/Bischoff storylines, forgettable Sting title runs and Jeff Hardy suffering his drug problem. 

 

And nothing could've flopped harder than Aces and Eights shortly thereafter. 

When Hogan & Bischoff came in, a few cool things happened in TNA.  Jeff Hardy returned, Mr. Anderson debuted, and there was a lot of media hype around Hogan's arrival.  And I honestly hoped as a fan that them coming to TNA would elevate them to the next level.  Unfortunately for the good things Hogan/Bischoff did in TNA like bringing in Hardy, Anderson, etc. then they also had equally bad ideas.  They brought in Val Venis/Sean Morley which failed.  The Nasty Boys came in, which I still vividly remember and hate to this day.  So for each great idea the two had, they had more bad so it didn't balance out.

 

Sting title runs were always a high point and he's one of the few big name stars they had.  Hardy's drug problems were a brief point in his career and he has since turned his life around, which is admirable.  Aces & Eights was a decent idea and if pulled off right, could have been better.  They only had a few big names for the group, mostly Team 3D and Mr. Anderson.  The rest were green rookies like Knux, Wes Brisco, or Doc and having them as members did little to boost the credibility of such a group.  If they'd had Sting go to Aces & Eights, that would've been major.  Or Kurt Angle, even though admittedly that one wouldn't make much sense but having a main TNA guy defecting makes an impact.  At that time, they had the option of using Matt Morgan.  I mean the options were endless and TNA failed to capitalize.  Which is kind of the story of TNA's existence really.....

 

Dixie Carter needs to pull her head out of her backside and start a major promotion push. The funding problem is the main thing with that, but to be honest if they don't, I don't know what more TNA can do. They're slowly improving and a marketing push could be the clincher. They have a brilliant but underutilized roster, with a little more work on rivalries, and promoting their USP's (6-sided ring and brutality) and storylines, TNA could be very good competition.

Either that or they remain where they are. Which sucks not just for TNA, but for Wrestling business as a whole.



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Hogan and Bischoff trying to relive their nWo moments and stuff was a really bad time period for that company. Around that time period was nothing but terrible Hogan/Bischoff storylines, forgettable Sting title runs and Jeff Hardy suffering his drug problem. 

 

And nothing could've flopped harder than Aces and Eights shortly thereafter. 

When Hogan & Bischoff came in, a few cool things happened in TNA.  Jeff Hardy returned, Mr. Anderson debuted, and there was a lot of media hype around Hogan's arrival.  And I honestly hoped as a fan that them coming to TNA would elevate them to the next level.  Unfortunately for the good things Hogan/Bischoff did in TNA like bringing in Hardy, Anderson, etc. then they also had equally bad ideas.  They brought in Val Venis/Sean Morley which failed.  The Nasty Boys came in, which I still vividly remember and hate to this day.  So for each great idea the two had, they had more bad so it didn't balance out.

 

Sting title runs were always a high point and he's one of the few big name stars they had.  Hardy's drug problems were a brief point in his career and he has since turned his life around, which is admirable.  Aces & Eights was a decent idea and if pulled off right, could have been better.  They only had a few big names for the group, mostly Team 3D and Mr. Anderson.  The rest were green rookies like Knux, Wes Brisco, or Doc and having them as members did little to boost the credibility of such a group.  If they'd had Sting go to Aces & Eights, that would've been major.  Or Kurt Angle, even though admittedly that one wouldn't make much sense but having a main TNA guy defecting makes an impact.  At that time, they had the option of using Matt Morgan.  I mean the options were endless and TNA failed to capitalize.  Which is kind of the story of TNA's existence really.....

 

Dixie Carter needs to pull her head out of her backside and start a major promotion push. The funding problem is the main thing with that, but to be honest if they don't, I don't know what more TNA can do. They're slowly improving and a marketing push could be the clincher. They have a brilliant but underutilized roster, with a little more work on rivalries, and promoting their USP's (6-sided ring and brutality) and storylines, TNA could be very good competition.

Either that or they remain where they are. Which sucks not just for TNA, but for Wrestling business as a whole.

 

The pieces are all in place for TNA to be a successful company.  But Dixie Carter is their biggest problem because a company is only as strong as its leader and Dixie doesn't know what she is doing.  Also, TNA has never had brand identity that makes wrestling fans sit up and take notice of them to the point where even casual fans want to watch.  TNA has a very strong roster despite losing guys like Styles, Daniels, Sabin, Kaz, Bully Ray, and a lot of X-Division guys.  Their shows lately have been improving but that means nothing if people aren't hyped about their product.

 

The bottom line is whether you love, hate, or are indifferent to TNA they are potential competition for WWE.  And any true wrestling/entertainment fan should want a company to give WWE a challenge so that all products will improve their game. 






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