CMLL List of Faces & Heels: Roster Breakdown (2004)

@Rionacho AGAIN!?

@Draysin Martin Its true

@Rionacho NOOOO 😭

@Wright Hill We feel hesitant in assigning the Speed Championship to Kaiser until he actually defends it or shows up with the title. So far the title was never mentioned since Kaiser took the El Grande identity, so it's fair to assume it's still only tied to Gable.

@Andy Alright.. That's fair, but even 2k25 commentary mentioned it despite them still referring El Grande Americano as Gable. But go back and look at people like Ricochet, Candace LeRae, Andrade, Dragon Lee. They didn't walk around with the title. To my understanding, Sol Ruca is the first to actually carry the title around. Before her, they didn't carry OR respect the title at all.

@Wright Hill We'll see what to do or retcon the Title History once they do something with the current El Grande on NXT.

@Andy All right thank you, and also thank you for putting up with my countless requests. 😅

@Draysin Martin cage is a face, he got kicked out of the patriarchy and is now teaming with adam copeland

@Madness Guess you'd be Right

@Constance Affinito Harley Riggins and Jax Presley as well

@TopKekyoin Hey, thanks!
- Fixed Breeze.

@Andy Praise be to Andy.

@Andy thank you for always listening to us
yeah, i know otm is an acronym but they started using the name as an acronym over the full name once jaida and scrypts left. do correct me if im wrong on this though
my bad on kit wilson, you're completely right. what do you think of tony d though? look up "Someone Approached Tony D’Angelo | NXT Jul 29, 2025" on youtube, after this he has not been seen since with people thinking he'll join the main roster soon. just wondering if this should be considered as inactive for story or not.
Aug. 18, 2025 (or Aug. 4, 2025 unless you would count it as more of a buildup) for Asuka, that's when the stuff with rhea and iyo really started and August 16, 2025 for Ludwig as that's when Triplemania started and we truly saw people cheer him on from that day

random question, do you think you might do the same for aew/roh or maybe njpw too? with the low/high card stuff etc. i love all kind of wrestling and would love to use this site even more for everything and would be willing to help out more with recommendations, but if it will stay wwe centered then i fully understand since it IS the smackdownhotel after all. maybe putting aaa roster on the top of the site next to the rest where it says "wwe roster - aew roster ....... ECW" would be smart too since it's now owned by wwe, and cmll too since its as big as aaa

@TopKekyoin - Not sure about the OTM acronym thing, as I don't follow NXT too much. If you're 100% sure about this I can change this. But otherwise I think it's no big deal. Even wikipedia still calls them Out The Mud.

@Wright Hill Thank you guys for all the help in keeping track of things!